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The idea of sets in Irish music… you know tunes in a row… sometimes more. In my "studies" of early American fiddling I found that for dancing Ást - Various - Acoustic Iceland was usually ONE tune traditionally say pre —- it seems that in the early s sometimes and only sometimes theyd Pardon My Freedom - !!!
- The Black Sessions 2 tunes together…. Is this similar with Irish music historically? Seems like it must be something relatively new? Sometimes it takes quite a few times through a few tunes to get through all the various parts of a ceilidhe dance, tradmoosic. And if you are doing one of the dances where you cycle through all the different possible partners, it can take a while Pardon My Freedom - !!!
- The Black Sessions get through everyone. So repeats are very much a part of playing for dancers. I have heard that in the old days, players were more prone to play one tune throughout an entire dance, but that sounds pretty boring to me, not surprised that modern bands go from tune to tune.
If you are going on early recordings, there are also the limitations of early recording technology to consider. On wax cylinders and the early 78s, you might only be able to fit a few minutes of music on the recording. This probably may have precluded playing more than one or two tunes, especially if a musician wanted to explore and flesh out variations on the tune s.
This may or may not be a major contributing factor, but it jumped into my mind as something that may have made a difference.
Anybody tried to play one slide through bars? We might need a qualified nurse present and the proper equipment and lubrication…. It was largely the commercialisation of Irish music that led to tunes being put together. Before this they seemed to be played on their own. It made you feel like you were getting something extra if you got more than one tune per side.
They loved the music and enjoyed playing it, together or on their own, and for listeners and dancers alike. Even a 78 of just one tune would be pretty boring without some decent variations.
It was possibly this need for a little light and shade to How Sandra Met Aeron - Chra - Secret Thirteen Mix 169 a recording more interesting that prompted sets? Might I suggest you get a bicycle? I think "c" has hit on something universal in the "arts"… When you participate, the music takes on new life… Even in a "performance setting" someone can be sitting on their ass, yet maybe they have picked up a fiddle at some point in their lives and appreciate what it takes and this leads to appreciation.
So in that way they are a participant. In relation to "sets", in the past a single tune was good enough for the participants and for those hanging around and sitting on their asses watching the music and dnace.
I guess Somewhere Or Nothing - Various - Virgin Babylon Night Mix was wrong about the old 78s.
In India the short recording times left a lot on the chopping block as you could only fit a very bare bones rendition Pardon My Freedom - !!! - The Black Sessions what you were singing or playing which could normally go from 10 minutes to a hour or more with extensive improvisation into 3 minutes or so. Whatever the case, his fiddle possessed the most beautifully plangent tone and his music has a wonderfully rolling gait.
Yet Kelly did play for example the two Pitchforks, Rambling and Sporting together. Personally, I prefer to participate instead of sitting there quietly and listening because I enjoy playing music so much.
Although I am a respectable married man, I am still not "sets" mad. Merry Highlander, your ignorance is pardoned. Have we managed to enlighten you or do you still feel as if you are in the dark? If you are a member of The Session, log in to add a comment. Membership is free, and it only takes a moment to sign up.
Could have originated in the tradition at the same time as Set Dancing maybe. Generally, 2 or 3 in a row, at least early on with the ceili bands, would be max…. Maybe the record producers and engineers had more say in this than we realise?
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